ALAN FYFE
- GUEST AUSTRALIAN
MUSICIAN -
G'day folks,
Today, I interview a musician from Australia. Sadly, though I've tried hard, finding Musicians to interview is not easy.
BIO
Alan fyfe was born in South Perth and studied literature and
philosophy at the University of Western Australia. He writes poetry, prose fiction, and
journalism and his work has been featured in a diverse range of publications,
including Westerly, The Fremantle Herald Newspaper Group, and The Cottonmouth
Journal. He was an inaugural editor of
the UWA creative writing journal, Trove, and a prose editor for the American
Web Journal, Unlikely Stories. In 2009,
he won the Karl Popper Philosophy Award. Alan has been writing songs since he
was fifteen and recorded the Ukulele-Punk E.P, Messy Brunettes, at tweed
studios in the Northern Rivers in 2015. His
first novel, Floaters, was shortlisted for the Fremantle Press T.A.G Hungerford
Award and is currently under development as a multi-media project, including a
music E.P and stage show. He lives in Maylands, Western Australia, with his
son.
Welcome, Alan ...
1.
TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT
YOURSELF AND YOUR MUSIC JOURNEY.
My name is Alan. I’ve mostly lived near water. I’ve busked a lot. I took my Luna ukulele up the east coast and
busked at the railway underpass in Katoomba.
I made sixty bucks in forty-five minutes. It was a good day. A guy stopped and saw the Plato book in my
uke bag and gave me a weird nod. Got a bit
too close then dropped four bucks and ran off.
That ukulele’s broken now. I
fixed it up as a resonator with an old silver plate from the Salvation army,
but it got broken again.
2.
WERE YOU INTERESTED IN
MUSIC AS A KID? WHAT TYPES OF MUSIC?
Well, yes. Who isn’t? I used to be embarrassed to say I
liked Billy Joel when I was a kid. I’m
not embarrassed now. I god damn loved
Billy Joel. My brother took me to see
him at the Perth Entertainment centre.
Would have been twelve.
I liked Iron Maiden –
Number of the Beast. All the early Queen
albums, but All That Jazz in particular.
I couldn’t get enough of that Black Sabbath song, War Pigs, and probably
convinced myself I could worship the devil for about six months. My mum was interested in Bob Dylan, AC/DC,
and Stravinsky. My brother played
RodrÃguez all the time. It’s a little
known fact that Rodriguez was actually very popular in Australia while he was
obscure everywhere else but South Africa.
I’ve got his poetry stuck in my head forever… Were you tortured by your
own thirst, in those pleasures that you seek, that makes you Tom the curious,
that makes you James the weak.
3.
WHEN AND HOW DID YOU
BECOME A MUSICIAN?
My brother taught me
two chords on the guitar when I was fifteen.
They were E minor and G major.
You can play You Can’t Always Get What You Want with those two chords,
which, ironically, is exactly what you want.
I immediately bought a blue nylon string guitar from the hock shop for
fifteen bucks. The machine heads were
missing, so I caught a bus to Perth then walked five miles to a music shop that
had the right parts. Got the bits home,
fixed them in, strung the heavy, messy plank, and tuned it. Played You Can’t Always Get What You Want
then immediately wrote an original song.
The song was called Pig Boy. It
sounds metal, but Pig Boy was really very gentle and nostalgic. It had five chords and neither of them were
the two I knew. I just made them up by
moving shapes up and down the fretboard until something sounded like music.
It’s odd that a fifteen-year old would write a nostalgic song. You know, Bob Dylan wrote Bob Dylan’s Dream
when he was twenty-two and it sounds like the fond recollections of a
sixty-year old itinerant leather worker.
4.
WHAT DO YOU ENJOY MOST
ABOUT YOUR JOB?
There’s nothing to not
enjoy, but right now it’s good for company.
I’m primarily a writer, which is quite a lonely trade. Making some music with others has been a good
relief from being locked in a room with a laptop. I caught up with my friend the other day, who
had acted as empresario on the last thing put down as a recording. We want for a walk by the river and talked
for a couple of hours. So, that’s
something I enjoy a lot. Talking about
music with friends. Talking about art
and how it’s put together.
5.
WHAT IS THE HARDEST
THING ABOUT BEING A MUSICIAN?
For me, it’s playing.
Because my first medium is words and I concentrated on poetics as my
main form of expression, if my practice on instruments drops off it takes a lot
to get me back to playing well. I have
to try to keep up twenty minutes a day practice and learn or write a new song
every two weeks.
Most musicians seem to struggle with the part I find easy
though, which is the lyrics. I suppose
they’re trained in instruments pretty intensively, but rarely have any hard
training in verse. I often hear quite
successful bands with truly awful lyrics.
I listened to the last JJJ hottest 100.
I was borrowing someone’s car who had the radio tuned to JJJ. You know, you don’t change someone’s station
when you borrow a car. It’s extremely
rude. Anyway, half of the songs sounded
as though the lyrics were written by ten-year old kids who never got as far as
Dr Seuss… One in the top ten had a chorus that went – Baby, you’re driving me
crazy. What the hell? The guitar on the
song was pretty good, but you can do both.
Jimi Hendrix lyrics are light handed, imagistic, and excellent. If you don’t know poetry, it can be
learned. If you can’t learn it, get
someone who knows it to help with the lyrics.
Don’t write cat hat mat rhymes and repeat the same hokey story about a
relationship that’s sexy / romantic / difficult / broken up. It sounds like I’m being grumpy and
elitist. I am. The reason is that I hear lyrics on the
community station from little known local bands that are like cut gems five
times a day – interesting, well edited, good poetry – those cat hat mat bands
are taking up mental space that could be occupied by musicians who’ve actually
worked hard on having an integrity of expression. Get the hell off the stage if you’re going to
go at it like a tourist and not do the work on every part, or if you think you
can learn poetry by just trying to write it.
I can’t remember the name of the Baby, You’re Driving Me Crazy band, but
they don’t deserve to exist. They offer
nothing to the world. End of story.
6.
DO YOU WORK FOR
YOURSELF, OTHERS OR BOTH?
I work with others, never under them, so we work for each
other.
7.
WHAT WERE YOU IN A
PAST LIFE, BEFORE YOU BECAME INVOLVED IN MAKING MUSIC?
I’ve had twenty-three different careers, but I never had a
job before I wrote Pig Boy at fifteen, so there was no past life. If anything, I started seriously trying to
write prose fiction when I was thirteen, but the two things mesh up. So, nothing before this. All other work has been a sideline and, to be
honest, mostly a counter productive distraction. I worked as a home help for Silver Chain for
a while. Cleaning houses for the aged,
some disabled folk. That was nice. I liked that job. Working as a barista was cool too. You can drink as much coffee as you
like.
8.
WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST
ACHIEVEMENT?
Getting a short story published in a Mandurah computer club
magazine when I was thirteen. The
circulation was around thirty people. It
was 1986. People were still impressed
they could make their own newspapers on printers hooked up to a Commodore
64. I’ve done things that seem bigger
since. Things that seem bigger to other
people anyway. That was the biggest
thing that ever happened though. I knew
I’d made it. Just had to keep doing the
same thing.
9.
WHAT ARE YOU WORKING
ON AT THE MOMENT?
I wrote a novel called Floaters and it got shortlisted for
a major prize. I didn’t win but the
publisher was interested. I’d quoted
some song lyrics and they thought it would work out too expensive with copyright,
so they asked me to write my own songs.
I wrote in a fictional band called Meat Lunch as an excuse
for the original songs to appear in the book.
I’d finished my edits and was waiting for the publisher to come back
from Christmas break. I was bored so I
called a musician friend and floated the idea of recording some of the
songs. He came over and read the scene
Meat Lunch appear in. Within half an
hour we were in a professional studio with some very talented folk putting down
a track.
Currently, I’m working to make Floaters into a multi-media
project in this way. We’re doing an E.P
of songs from the book. Bringing the
fictional band to life. I give the songs
to the musicians and they get into the character like actors. I don’t play or sing. It’s very cool, seeing what they make it into
and we become co-creators. It becomes
their song as much as mine. The crew
were Ben Newton of Blue Child Collective acting as empresario, Chris Parkinson
of roving harmonica fame and the Freo Trio, Trevor Bentley who was lately a
bass lord from various bands but formed the Freo Trio with Chris, and it was
recorded by the nuggety Blake Carnaby of Nuglife studios. I didn’t choose the nug life, the nug life
chose me. I like that Blake has the same
name as a black-cockatoo.
Most of the songs are for female voice. The fictional lead singer is called Irma
Denial. I needed someone to play that
part. When I saw Chris and Trevor’s band
play, well, it’s called the Freo ‘Trio’ – the third member is a lady called
Catrin Enderlien and she’s agreed to come on board as Irma in the future
recordings. She had a fantastic voice
and style of playing, so it’s all looking pretty nifty.
That’s the stage I’m at now. I’m thinking the E.P will make an interesting
cross promotion when the book comes out.
A kind of soundtrack for the book.
Beyond that, it could make a good stage show. Who knows where the potential ends?
10.
WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE
TYPE OF MUSIC?
Something with honesty behind it. Something that looks effortless because the
maker worked like a dog to make it look that way. Something that is only cool because it
ignores being cool in order to do something interesting.
11.
WHAT INSPIRES YOU?
People inspire me. Some say they’re inspired by nature. I guess that’s fine, being grateful for the
way the world feels. I’m more worried
about nature these days. People get
me. What they can do. How kind they can be. How they can surprise you. I mean people close to me mostly. It’s hard to have distant heroes. You can’t really know that much about
them. You can admire their work, but the
closer you get the more the cracks start to show. I’m inspired by the people I know intimately
but who still come out shiny. My love,
Jasmina. My son, Yitzhak.
12.
DO YOU PLAY ANY
INSTRUMENTS?
Guitar; ukulele;
harmonica. I can play the first bit of
Moonlight Sonata on piano. Also
kazoo. I’m the world’s foremost kazoo
player. The world’s foremost kazoo
player is a closely guarded secret held by the Nobel Academy in Sweden. I can reveal, here, that it’s me. I’m tired of those damn Swedes holding me
back and I’m giving myself permission to shine.
There’s an award given out to the kazoo laureate. Unlike the peace prize or the literature
prize, the Nobel Prize for kazoo is held in a private room and the press aren’t
invited. They told me it was a safety
measure because my kazoo playing was so good it could potentially destroy the
universe if too many people played a recording of me at once, so I’ll never put
down a track with kazoo. I just wanted
people to know.
13.
DO YOU HAVE A
COLLECTION OF MUSIC? WHAT?
Like a true middle-age
wanker. I have an old record player and
buy vinyl a lot. I’m gunna say The
Mountain Goats, and just leave that there.
There’s a certain section of people who know exactly what I’m talking
about and know that I can’t explain it in any better way than listening to The
Mountain Goats.
Fairground Attraction;
Wu Tang Clan; Bus Driver; Digital Underground; Velvet Underground (big black
boots of shiny shiny leather…); Archer; Buffy St Marie; Regina Spektor; Mickey
Avalon; The Drones; Howlin Wolf; The Triffids; Sonny Boy Williamson II; The
Pogues; Bruce Springstein; Leonard Cohen (the high priest); The Venga Boys;
Courtney Barnett; Stone Temple Pilots; Jane’s Addiction; Pearl Jam; Kinky
Friedman and the Texas Jewboys.
I don’t have any Billy
Joel these days. Maybe I should get
some.
14.
DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS
FOR EMERGING MUSICIANS?
Sure, don’t write any lyrics with bourgeois foodstuffs in
there. Things like cronuts, kale, don’t
bring them up. It’s fine if you like to
eat these things, I won’t judge you. I
like a fifteen-dollar wedge of cheese as much as the next man. They just don’t belong in poetry.
Next, accept that you’ve failed. By taking up art, you have already
failed. I mean failure in the most
literal sense. There is a tiny, atomic
chance that you will even have a moderate level of success. Even for that midway, satisfactory life of
gigging round and making some art people like, or getting some poems published,
you’ll fail in crushing and tragic ways along the path. If you’re still reading this and still
interested in going on, you’re no less of a failure but you should definitely
go on. There’s nothing in being good but
the work and the struggle with that work.
And if you get good you can never have failed.
Another thing is never miss a chance to pick up a skill or
a bit of knowing. All sorts of people
can teach you all sorts of things. Be
humble and listen more than you pontificate.
Seriously, though, don’t write songs about kale. I did some work for a friend and she gave me
produce from her garden. Spinach,
garlic, and kale. I didn’t eat the kale,
I threw it in the bin. Kale tastes like
disappointment.
15.
DO YOU HAVE A
PREFERRED SCHEDULE?
I like to work from six
to twelve hours a day. Half an hour for
lunch when I watch the news. Sometimes I
work up to sixteen hours, but with a good hour for an evening meal. I can be working on one thing or
another. It could be study and
research. It could be writing. It could be a song. I have weekends off. Good praxis comes with application.
16.
DO YOU HAVE A
FAVOURITE PLACE OR TIME TO WORK?
I like to practice
guitar or ukulele on the outside couch on a nice afternoon, or even when it’s
raining. It’s a sheltered spot. I usually think of lyrics in the morning and
they either come out complete and I can work on the music during the day, or
the lyrics brew through the day and come out at night. The songs that come out completely in the
morning are the best songs usually, when I’m closer to a dream state, but I
don’t get much say about when they come out exactly. Most of the time I write at the kitchen
table.
17.
WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST
JOY IN YOUR WORK?
In terms of music, just that sound. The sound when you hit it the right way. It never gets old. In terms of writing, the constant work and
editing. Making things that weren’t in
the world the day before. But the
writing has a sound too. It’s hard to
explain. It has a music, and a tune you
sort of know. You know when it’s sweet
and you know when you hit a bad note.
18.
WHAT’S THE GREATEST
COMPLIMENT YOU’VE EVER RECEIVED?
I can see your nipples through that shirt.
19.
DESCRIBE THE FUNNIEST
MOMENT YOU EXPERIENCED IN YOUR WORK?
I stopped where this little kid was busking outside the art
gallery. He had a harmonica, couldn’t
play at all, just blowing the thing. But
it was so cute. Mum was watching, real
proud, wrapped up in a shawl on a winter night.
I was very charmed and took my harp out to jam with him. I showed it to his mum and got the nod. Then I started to play a little Good Morning
Blues in time with his all over the place blow and draw. He looked up at me, absolutely furious, and
said in this rich kid private school voice – excuse me, you’re ruining my
performance. Haha. Egotistical little bastard.
20.
WHAT WAS THE WORST
COMMENT YOU EVER RECEIVED?
Trying to busk in Adelaide after a night of heavy drinking and
smoking. Out in the Rundle Street
Mall. I sparked up Masters of War, which
is one of my best ukulele numbers. Some
dude walked past and just said – Really? It was crushing, but he was
right. I sounded awful and could hardly
talk, let alone sing.
21.
WRITERS ARE SOMETIMES
INFLUENCED BY THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THEIR OWN LIVES. ARE YOU AS A CREATIVE
MUSICIAN?
Yes, entirely. All
this stuff, it’s autobiography. Novels,
poems, songs. None of it has to have
literally happened. But you can’t write
to make people feel something if you haven’t felt something. All of it’s based on a true story of feeling
someway about something.
22.
HOW MANY SEPARATE
PIECES OF MUSIC HAVE YOU PRODUCED?
Ummm, I dunno. Lots
properly recorded. Probably a hundred
home recorded. Used to send them to
friends in the middle of the night when they couldn’t sleep. Someone got on the phone to me who I didn’t
know who’d got one of my songs from a friend.
He was super excited, like he was talking to Freddie Mercury. It was his favourite song and he played it
every day at work. He did qualify that
half the people at work hated it. That’s
what I want to do with music. I want it
to be polarizing and cause arguments.
You need to be upsetting someone or you’re not really trying.
23.
HAVE YOU WON ANY
PRIZES OR AWARDS?
Yes, there was the T.A.G Hungerford book award shortlisting
I mentioned above. I won the Karl Popper
Award for my philosophy writing in 2009.
24.
WHAT DID THEY MEAN TO
YOU?
Stepping stones. Few
more miles to go yet. It’s good
validation for people to like your work.
25.
OTHER THAN MAKING MUSIC,
WHAT ELSE DO YOU LOVE?
Food; music festivals; my nearest; fire twirling; drinking
the water that runs over the rocks at the bottom of a waterfall.
26.
DESCRIBE YOUR PERFECT
DAY.
It’s hard to pick one.
My life isn’t perfect, but I have so many perfect days at this point of
my life. I’ve been waiting a long time
for days like this. I believed they
would come and had my faith justified.
There’s that silly question – what would you do if you knew the end of
the world was tomorrow? Everyone has
some wild answer. For myself, I’d be
able to pick maybe eight days from the last month that I’d have for my last day
alive. I reckon that’s a pretty good
strike rate. I could be making a bit of art,
playing some music, having a pun battle with my son, eating dinner with my
love, speaking to a friend, grappling with some particular bit of philosophy,
and reading a good poem. A lot of my
days involve all of these things now.
Those are perfect days.
27.
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS
FOR THE FUTURE?
Much more of the same.
More books, more songs, more chats with friends about art. More time with the people I love. More perfect days.
28.
IF YOU CREATED MUSIC FOR
THE LEADERS OF THEWORLD, WHAT WOULD IT BE ABOUT?
Nothing. They don’t get one damn song until they fix
things. They should be locked in a room
together with no music, no light, and no human touch until they agree to take
serious measures about the planet burning up and people in the third world
being exploited like slaves. If they get
to all that, I dunno, whatever they like best.
Probably a pirate song compilation.
Pirates are very popular. I like
sea shanties. There’s a sea shanty done
by Captain Beefheart, Orange Claw Hammer, that’s like half spoken word and
gorgeously weird. If I did sea shanties
for world leaders, Orange Claw Hammer would be on there. But I’d be happy to do maybe a two-hour album
of sea shanties if they meet my demands.
I feel as though they’d get big-headed if they solved all those
problems, a bit messianic, which is crap because they should be working on
those problems as a matter of urgency all the time. Their job is guiding us safely through this
rubbish. No one should feel messianic
for just doing their job. Sea shanties
are nicely working class and it’s hard to mistake them for messiah music, so
that’s what I’d do. Shea shanties are
also about ships and everyone likes to think about travel. Anyway, they’re not doing their jobs, so no
sea shanties right now.
Clancy's comment: Go, Alan! Thanks for joining us. Being a muso in this country is similar to being an author. Maybe we should all 'band' together and shake a few trees.
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Hmmm. Nobel kazoo prize indeed. LOL
ReplyDeleteYep, good call.
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Great interview, good laugh also
ReplyDeleteI agree, thanks to Alan.
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