MELISSA JO
PELTIER
G'day guys,
Today I introduce an author who has had a wealth of experience in many creative areas - Melissa Jo Peltier. Melissa Jo has been honored for her film and television
writing, producing and directing with two Emmys, a Peabody, Humanitas
and more than 50 other awards and nominations.
An executive producer of the thrice Emmy-nominated and People’s Choice-winning reality series Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan, she co-authored five New York Times best-selling books with its star, along with two more non-fiction titles. Melissa is a co-founder of Burbank-based MPH Entertainment, Inc, which has created over 350 hours of original non-fiction and reality programming.
Welcome, Melissa Jo ...
TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR WRITING
JOURNEY … AND WHEN AND HOW DID YOU BECOME A WRITER?
My mother loved the book Little Women by Louisa May Alcott. She wanted to name me after one of the
characters in the book. My parents
settled on “Amy Veronica” for a girl.
But when I was born, the story goes, my mother looked into my eyes and said, “She’s going to be a
writer.” So my name was changed to
Melissa Jo – the Jo for Jo March, the writer in the March family and Alcott’s
avatar in her novel. My mother died very
young when I was 22, but my middle name reminds me how well she knew me and how
deeply she loved me, from the moment I arrived.
WHAT DO YOU ENJOY MOST ABOUT BEING A WRITER?
I have a sort of Jungian world
view, so I would say it’s the connection with the Collective Unconscious that
is possible when you are in the flow.
It’s the feeling that the words and images are coming from somewhere
else and just pouring through you; you’re just writing what is dictated. This happens less frequently that I’d like,
but it does happen, and it’s the closest thing to understanding what the
universe is all about that I ever get to come.
WHAT IS THE HARDEST THING ABOUT BEING A WRITER?
Being
disciplined. Because I have horrible,
hateful critical voices that scream at me that what I write is junk and no one
wants to read it and my craft is terrible and I’m not as good as so and so,
etc. etc. etc…it’s often hard to get started.
Once I do get started and into a project, it begins to flow, but I have
to put my blinders on and leave all judgment behind until I’m finished, which
is very, very difficult for me, since I’m more comfortable as a natural editor
and rewriter.
WHAT WERE YOU IN A PAST LIFE, BEFORE YOU BECAME A
WRITER?
I was always a writer, but I also
love directing and my work allowed me to do both of those as well as producing
non-fiction television.
WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST WRITING ACHIEVEMENT?
Finishing my novel Reality Boulevard http://apostrophebooks.com/realityboulevard
and letting the characters take me on a journey.
WHAT ARE YOU WORKING ON AT THE MOMENT?
I am experimenting with the
thriller genre, which is a challenge but a good one. I love reading/watching thrillers and though
it’s not the form that all the stories in my head take, I thought I’d try and
tackle it for one particular story about four suburban guys who share a
terrible secret from their high school years that comes back to haunt them.
WHAT INSPIRES YOU?
Reading great literature, seeing
well-made films, gazing at a brilliant painting or sculpture or architecture…as
well as experiencing God’s three-dimensional paintings in nature. Whenever I see something done well and far better
than I could ever have done it, I’m inspired.
WHAT GENRE DO YOU WRITE?
I am genre-hopping at the
moment. Reality Boulevard is an odd genre – a social novel, a Hollywood
novel, contemporary fiction. My current
piece of work is a thriller. In the
queue are some other genres. I haven’t
written enough longform fiction to know if I’ll settle into a niche. I always thought I’d be a “literary”
novelist but I don’t know yet if I have the chops.
DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS FOR NEW WRITERS?
Read. Read everything. Realize that you did not invent the wheel,
you won’t be inventing the wheel, and you are beholden to all who came before
you. Then write as honestly as humanly
possible with your own unique voice. And
just write the next word.
DO YOU SUFFER FROM WRITER’S BLOCK?
Not writer’s block per-se as in
“I don’t know what to write.” I have too
many things I want to write. I suffer
from fear, horribly mean critical voices in my head, and other symptoms that
tend to cause avoidance and procrastination.
DO YOU HAVE A PREFERRED WRITING SCHEDULE?
Once I get over the avoidance/procrastination
hump, I prefer writing when I roll out of bed while the subconscious is most
active. I revise in the afternoons, and
sometimes the writing calls me back for a couple hours at night.
DO YOU HAVE A FAVOURITE WRITING PLACE?
I go through phases. I have a lovely office that looks out on the
Hudson River but often I prefer my laptop, in front of the fireplace, on the
patio in nice weather, and at the Art Café in downtown Nyack, which is just a
really conducive environment for creativity but also with incredible coffee,
tea and vegetarian food. I wrote the
last half of Reality Boulevard sitting at an outside table at the Art Café. I travel with my husband to his movie
locations and I actually rewrote all of Reality Boulevard in a coffee shop on
St. Philips St. in the French Quarter of New Orleans! I like finding new places to write. As long
as I can be comfy.
WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST JOY IN WRITING?
When I’m in “the flow” – when
I’ve somehow shut off all those critical voices and I’m allowing the work to
flow through me as if it were coming from somewhere else. When that happens – not often enough, but it
does happen – writing is a spiritual experience.
WHO IS YOUR FAVOURITE AUTHOR AND WHY?
I have a hard time having a
‘favourite’ anything, and there are so many authors to whom I look up. I’d have to say Charles Dickens, who not only
pioneered the social novel as entertainment, but who created some of the most
unforgettable characters in all of literature.
One of the things I admire most about Dickens is, it’s clear that he
loved all of his characters. Even the
bad ones are somehow infused with a kind of creator’s love. I aspire to that.
WHAT’S THE GREATEST COMPLIMENT YOU EVER RECEIVED
FROM A READER?
“Couldn’t put it down.” Every time someone tells me that, I feel I
succeeded.
WHAT WAS THE WORST COMMENT FROM A READER?
Well, I had a reader from a
publishing company say that “The characters are too sympathetic, which makes
the satire fail.” Personally I think
that’s a ridiculous concept – who says you can’t have sympathetic characters in
satire? And the truth is, although
Reality Boulevard reads like satire, I didn’t intend it that way. Most of what reads like satire is actually
the “gawdawful truth.”
WRITERS ARE SOMETIMES INFLUENCED BY THINGS THAT
HAPPEN IN THEIR OWN LIVES. ARE YOU?
Always. I tend to believe that the
writing comes from somewhere else and is filtered through the individual writer
and his/her experience before it lands on earth. I also know that though I was a good writer
technically in college, my writing now has a depth of understanding I couldn’t
possibly have had then.
OTHER THAN WRITING, WHAT ELSE DO YOU LOVE?
I adore my wonderful
writer-director husband John Gray, and love traveling with him to
locations. We call our life “the
moveable feast” for that reason. I love
love LOVE directing both documentary and dramatic films; my speciality is
directing children and directing people who aren’t actors and making them look
like actors. I love great films and
classic films; I love supporting indie films.
I love the theatre – both plays and musicals. I love top-notch television drama like Mad Men or The Sopranos…to me, that’s where the great drama has gone, not to
studio movies. I love reading and I love
an eclectic assortment of music. I love
art and architecture – especially decorating.
I love working out and listening to books on tape while doing it. Lately this winter, my thing is birding. I am currently obsessed with the feeder birds
in our backyard.
DID YOU HAVE YOUR BOOK / BOOKS PROFESSIONALLY EDITED
BEFORE PUBLICATION?
My publishers at Apostrophe Books
did the editing on Reality Boulevard. I was fortunate to get Apostrophe’s founder,
Martyn Forrester, to personally do my book.
My non-fiction books at Random House, Simon and Schuster and Capo Press
all had professional editors and copyeditors.
I worked very closely with some excellent editors on the Cesar Millan
Books and the Mommy Docs book. A great
editor is a blessing. He or she wants
the best for the book, just like you do, but can see it from a less biased
perspective.
DESCRIBE YOUR PERFECT DAY.
My perfect day would have to be
at the beach, either in my happy place on the Outer Cape of Massachusetts or
our favourite vacation spot, on Isle of Palms near Charleston South
Carolina. Wake up to a beautiful, hot
(but not too muggy) sunny day; drink a mug of hand-mixed loose-leaf tea with
almond milk and honey and have a small breakfast, then head out for a long bike
ride and a workout at the gym. Get back
before noon in time to go down to the beach with a book. Read until “magic hour,” have a hot shower,
then go for a romantic dinner and a walk around town. Before bed, watch an episode of great TV like
House of Cards or Breaking Bad. Read myself to sleep.
I know, pretty dull. Fifteen years ago it would’ve been
different. But dull is really where it’s
at for me these days.
IF YOU WERE STUCK ON A DESERT ISLAND WITH ONE
PERSON, WHO WOULD IT BE? WHY?
My husband, John Gray. Ten years and I’m still never tired of
him. He’s one of the most interesting,
funny, compassionate people I’ve ever met with a fascinating life story that I
never get enough of; and he’s also a great listener and sounding board for
ideas. I do the same for him; we call it
“Musing.”
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IF YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TO
WORLD LEADERS?
Heavy is the head that wears the
crown, but come on, people. Stop with
the game playing and chest thumping already and do something. Make some change. Politics be damned! Do the right thing for the people who elected
you!
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE?
On my immediate list is to write
and direct a short film that gets on the festival circuit, and to produce more
indie features with my husband, John Gray.
I have several novels “in the queue” to write. I would kill to direct and write a feature
documentary, but raising money was never my forte.
WHAT FIVE BOOKS WOULD YOU TAKE TO HEAVEN?
Robert Penn Warren’s ALL THE
KINGS MEN
Charles Dicken’s GREAT
EXPECTATIONS
F. Scott Fitzgerald’s THE GREAT
GATSBY
Hillary Mantel’s WOLF HALL
Toni Morrison’s BELOVED
DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN ANY OF YOUR CHARACTERS?
Because of my Jungian worldview,
I see myself in all of the characters, just as I believe we represent all of
the characters in our dreams. I think if
a writer is honest, he or she will admit this.
Even the darkest characters in my novel represent aspects of me – and
writing them into life is a way to exorcise their power. The character of Hunter is most like me in a
superficial way – she has the same job I had for many years in the business, as
a field director for television (though I’m a writer and she is not); and her
tunnel-vision drive and ambition definitely represents aspects of me at a
certain time in my life. I see myself in
Marty Maltzman in my frustration over how television has changed; I see myself
in Jackie Rosen, the guidance counsellor who is both shocked and cynical at how
money has warped the parents and kids at her school; and I even have to admit
seeing myself in Garret “The World Hasn’t Recognized My Genius!” Shaw.
DOES THE PUBLISHING INDUSTRY FRUSTRATE YOU?
When I first started writing the
Cesar Millan books for Random House, I was blown away at how much better the
publishing world was than television, for a writer, at least. My editor (Julia Pastore) was so in tune with
what I was doing, so pleasant to work with and so intelligent, her notes
actually made the book better. What’s
more, I got far fewer notes from her in a whole 90,000 word book than I would
get from television executives at
certain unnamed networks on a fifteen minute segment for a one hour show. The same with my editor on the Mommy Docs book. They were a delight to work with and it felt
like a collaboration rather than a dictatorship, as often is the case in
television. So my experience in
non-fiction was wonderful, especially compared to the similar process I
underwent hundreds of times in television.
However, the rejections I got for
REALITY BOULEVARD were confusing. Almost
every publisher who rejected the book said he or she liked it very much. I got the sense that the reasons given for
rejection were things that, possibly a decade ago, a publisher might have taken
on as a challenge. I have learned from
my agent that the only surefire way to sell a book these days is to have a
“platform” for promotion. That’s
difficult if you’re not an established author or a celebrity of some kind. The eBook thing is new to me, and it seems
like a very vast sea in which to try and get noticed. But I’m very happy with my publisher,
Apostrophe Books, and they are holding my hand throughout.
DID YOU EVER THINK OF QUITTING?
When I was in college, my senior
year, I wrote a poem in a creative writing class. I can’t recall its title right now, but it
was about conformity in suburbia and how little girls dream of growing up to
look like Barbie. (My work had a lot of
feminist subtext back then.) When it
came time to discuss in class, the writing professor tore the poem apart. Not the style or craft, but the subject
matter. He actually laughed at it,
saying “Who cares?” Later I heard from a
freshman who had this particular professor as an advisor. She told me he often used my poems as
examples of what not to write about.
Naturally I was devastated, but I had an angel on my side.
The National Book-winning poet
and essayist, Adrienne Rich. That same semester, Rich – then
my hero as a writer; I’d read all her books – came to the consortium of
colleges that included mine and offered a select writing workshop open to only
ten students in all the colleges. I was
chosen as one of the ten. After my other
professor’s ridicule, I remember running all the way to across three campuses
to have a meeting with Ms. Rich. She was
outraged at the behaviour of the other professor and told me I had real talent,
a real voice, and I must never, ever let anyone tell me what I should or
shouldn’t be writing. She was a powerful
woman and she passionately convinced me to keep writing. We stayed in touch for several years after
the class and I feel so blessed and honoured to have known and studied under
her. Not to mention having her save my
writing from certain death.
WHAT WAS YOUR FAVOURITE MANUSCRIPT TO WRITE? WHY?
Definitely Reality Boulevard. First,
because it taught me that yes, I can write a novel! I was tired of writing in someone else’s
voice. Second, because it was a
transformative experience for me. I
learned life lessons right alongside my characters. That makes me hungry to write more novels.
HOW
WOULD YOU DEFINE ‘SUCCESS’ AS A WRITER.
I suppose to feel good about one’s
writing and to have that reflected back from your audience’s reaction. On another level, I would love to be able to
make a living purely with my own
writing, and not writing for hire, which has been my life in the past.
WHAT
SHOULD READERS WALK AWAY FROM YOUR BOOKS KNOWING? HOW SHOULD THEY FEEL?
I
would like readers to walk away from Reality
Boulevard feeling as if they are
getting off a wonderful carnival ride that they wished had gone on a little
longer. I want them to feel like they
met “people” they were happy (or at least fascinated!) to know, and that they
grew up a little right alongside them.
I’d also like them to come away thinking a little more critically about
television and the media, but that’s secondary to the characters and story.
HOW
MUCH THOUGHT GOES INTO DESIGNING A BOOK COVER?
Jamie
Downham designed four potential covers for Reality
Boulevard and they were all spot on.
WHAT’S
YOUR ULTIMATE DREAM?
My
ultimate dream is to leave this earth knowing I did all I could do with the
gifts I was given, including the ability to love and be loved in return.
WRITING
IS ONE THING. WHAT ABOUT MARKETING YOU, YOUR BOOKS AND YOUR BRAND? ANY
THOUGHTS?
In
2009, I produced an indie film with my husband (which he wrote and directed)
called White Irish Drinkers. We did have a distributor and got a small
theatrical release, and we spent a whole year on the festival circuit, but after
opening weekend, all the publicity and promotion went to me. So in 2010, I learned Twitter and started
working the social media platforms to build an audience. Because we planned to do more movies, I made
myself the touchstone instead of the film itself. So far that has worked and I’ve begun to
build a little ‘brand’ around myself that way.
I’m writing a lot here but truth be told, I’d rather not talk about
myself as much as I have to in promotion.
But Reality Boulevard is my
baby and I’d do anything to see it succeed.
ANYTHING
YOU’D LIKE TO ADD?
Exert from Reality Boulevard, Chapter 2 “Opus Ludius” ...
“What the hell do you think you’re doing?” Jerry asked “What did I tell you about getting serious with actresses?”
“Look,” Marty began, “Crimson’s different – “
“Crimson!” Jerry spluttered. “Oh, Marty. The name alone.”
“Jerry. She’s a serious, working actress. “
Jerry
sighed. After all, it had been Jerry himself who, twenty-five years
earlier, had schooled Marty on the industry distinction between a
working actor and a common wanabee actor: genus and species Opus Ludius
versus the ubiquitous Vacuus Ludius. According to Jerry and those
jaded above-the-liners who subscribed to his philosophy, the second type
could be found at any time of day or night: at the gym, sculpting their
impossibly flawless physiques; at Starbucks, pecking out star vehicle
screenplays on their laptops; at clubs and industry parties, seeking
access to the plush lifestyles to which they aspired. Some of the more
industrious among them were waiting tables in Santa Monica and West
Hollywood, ushering at the Arclight Hollywood or Sherman Oaks, or
guiding tour busses though the Universal Studios back lot, hoping to
make an impression in a more productive way. There were many, however,
who always seemed to be just scraping by; living off the largess of
parents, roommates, lovers, sugar daddies or mommies. Most of them were
extremely good looking, young, and famously flighty.
Working actors, Opus Ludii, were a different species altogether. They had real agents and managers who didn’t work out of their apartments. They were known by at least a couple of the major casting agents in town. Working actors had the training to prove that they viewed their careers as art and craft rather than as fame vehicle. They spent more of their free time in classes and workshops than in gyms and plastic surgeon’s offices, haunted the new play section at the Samuel French bookshop, and earned at least enough income from acting in a given year to qualify for the Screen Actor’s Guild health insurance program. Some of them even had homes, families, and relatively normal lives outside of work. "
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- My website www.melissajopeltier.com which is hosted through The Author’s Guild, protecting the rights of writers and content creators since 1912.
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Clancy's comment: Well done, Melissa Jo. Thanks for making the time to be interviewed. Keep going ...
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